11th
& 12th April, 2009
Part III[Session I]: The
Second Day, Forenoon
Sri Roop Saranji , presented six case studies, as illustrations of: ‘The Importance of the IIIH in
the SA’. He preceded his case studies by a talk, which emphasized the
importance of the IIIH and its numerous significations in the SA, from a number
of different angles.
He first of all emphasized the ‘Sun-like’ character of
the IIIH. This meant that the
IIIH is recognized in the SA as a very
powerful H, with its lord, having ‘as
much power’ as the Su would have. [In an aside, I may do well to confess
that, the full realization of the
significance of any ‘Sun-like House’ in the SA had suddenly dawned upon me
only when Prof Choudhry,
went into it more deeply, during one
of my dialogues with him after the Conf
hours].
Sri Saranji
considered the various significations of the IIIH, one by one. Firstly he said,
the IIIH’s essence was life & motion. Secondly he said, the IIIH, was
an expression of life itself. Thirdly he said it was the H of communication. He reiterated the fact
that the IIIH, more than any other H, dealt with the movement of life and that all activities in the spheres of the arts
and the sciences were covered by it. Next he emphasized that the desire to succeed is given by the IIIH,
and that this indeed is the initiative,
which is the most important signification of the IIIH. All in all, he was stressing only the paramount importance of the IIIH.
Among other
significations of the IIIH, he marshalled, for bringing home its importance in
the field of medical astrology, he dwelt on respiration
and noted that all achievements in life revolve around this central function of
respiration. He included the signification of hands and even the nervous system*. He added the
signification of energy and included
the medical astrological signification of the Thyroid glands*.
Sri Saranji included the
signification of Karmayoga, as well
as that of short & long journeys. Finally he also included as the IIIH
signification, the Puranic legend of lord Shiva as Neelakanta, retaining the poison in the throat when the same
emerged as a result of churning of the milk ocean, by the Devas & Asuras.
In invoking the Neelakanta
signification of the IIIH, Sri Saranji had taken the IIIH to also signify the
neck. He thus completed enumerating all the significations of the IIIH.
*I raised a Q at this
point, wanting to know how, the significations of the nervous system, the Thyroid
glands, and Neelakanta, fell into
the domain of the IIIH?
In the SA, I had learnt
from the Professor’s writings, that the nervous system was represented by Me
and that when the VIH was afflicted, one may also suffer a nervous breakdown.
But any connection of the nervous system with the IIIH, seemed to me to be not
correct – which was the reason, I raised the Q. When I turned to Prof Choudhry, for
verification, he requested Dr.
Batra [who had researched Medical astrology in the SA thoroughly] to
come forward and throw light on these aspects of Medical astrology in the SA.
Dr. Batra,
taking up first the Q of the Thyroid
glands, mentioned that this is a ductless [endocrine] gland, which secretes
directly into the blood stream, unlike the more familiar sweat glands, which
were exocrine in nature and that Ju
signified all glands in the body. But
that, in terms of the Hs, Thyroid glands, must be assigned to both the IIH as
well as the IIIH [SA Sutra].
Turning to the
signification of the nervous system, she said Me was the main significator of
the nervous system. Prof Choudhry also
pointed out that in the SA, the head
and the VIH, governed and represented the nervous system [SA Sutra]. Thus
it became clear that the nervous system is not one of the significations of the
IIIH. Dr Batra,
answering a Q from Smt
Sunita Singhal on brain hemorrhages, mentioned that the IH, Ma & Me signified brain hemorrhages [SA Sutra].
We now go to the six
case studies of Sri Saranji, through which, he sought to illustrate the
multiple significations of the IIIH.
Case Study 1[A quarrelsome person]:
[May 9th, 1971, 8:04PM, Calcutta (88E22, 22N22), TZ=-5Hrs 30 Mts]
This was a Scorpio Asdt
chart of a lady, who in spite of having the strong
sattvik benefic Ju in the Asdt, had a reputation in her office for being
so highly courageous and aggressive that she created a lot of enemies around
her. Saranji, attributed so many enemies to the close affliction of the IIIH by
the Ra-Ke axis, to Ke’s close aspect on the Asdt, and to the angry &
quarrelsome malefic exalted Ma, placed as the lord of the VIH in the IIIH of
team work. It was not surprising therefore that in the office atmosphere; she
acquired a bad reputation for her rudeness and quarrelsome nature.
Case Study 2:
[Oct 21st, 1961, 1:50AM, Calcutta (88E22, 22N32), TZ=-5Hrs 30 Mts]
This Leo Asdt chart,
Saranji explained, belonged to a renuncient [notice Ke’s close influence on the
deb Asdt lord, the Su], who was a Saivite, and a Tantra Master as well. In
spiritual sadhana, Tantra means methods
& techniques and in this chart, Ma the lord of the IXH of spirituality
and techniques, being placed in the IIIH of profound interest, gave this Master
the Tantra inclination, as Saranji explained.
The Master’s weak Sa
& deb Ju are placed in the malefic VIH, thereby creating odds against
marital relationship, but paving the way for Karmayoga & Service. Significantly, the deb III lord Ve, placed close to the MEP of the IIH of status,
brought him recognition and status as a painter, artist, writer & orator.
Among these multiple skills, we may note that painting, artwork, and writing
are IIIH significations, while oration is a IIH signification. From the SA
point of view, 3 benefic planets placed in the IIIH, and enjoying placement
benefit, add to the fruits of the IIIH. Me, the intellectual planet placed in
the IIIH and that too close to the MEP, makes him a writer and gives him
religious/spiritual inclinations as well.
Saranji’s main point
about this chart, was that the deb of the IIIH lord, made the person lethargic, indecisive & prone to procrastination
and delays in all undertakings. At this point, in writing up these
Proceedings, one Q occurs to me, for which I seek the Professor’s
clarification.
Q: I have seen the
charts of people, whom I have known well in life, and who have been lethargic,
and who had weak Sa & Ju. In this chart also, Sa, which gives
dependability, dutifulness, responsibility, dedication, diligence, and love of
meticulous details, is seen to be very weak. So too, is Ju, weak. Thus are we to trace his
indecisiveness and his procrastination, to the weakness of Sa & Ju, in addition
to the weakness of the IIIH lord, Ve, the weakness of the significator of the
VIH, namely Me?
Prof Choudhry:
“Weak Jupiter and weak
Saturn contributed significantly to her being
lethargic, indecisive & prone to procrastination and delays in all undertakings.”
Case Study 3:
[Feb 16th, 1956, 4:50AM, Allahabad [81E51, 25N27], TZ= -5Hrs 30Mts]
In this Capricorn Asdt
chart, Saranji pointed out that the
highly successful nature of the individual in his professional work, as
well as his extensive travels[and in addition considerable communication in the
profession] – all came from his strong exalted Ve, as the professional lord,
placed in the IIIH. Saranji added that Ve, so strong in the IIIH, also made him
somewhat ostentatious, though it also
gave him a good aesthetic sense.
Ra’s exact aspect on the
Moon as well as the mutual affliction between the malefic Su & Ju, were not
elaborated upon, as Sri Saranji’s main point in these case studies, was only to bring out the different facets
and importance of the IIIH in the SA. In response to a query from Prof Choudhary Sri Saran confirmed that
these influences gave problems on the relationship front.
Case Study 4:
[Aug 27th 1956, 7:15AM, Calcutta (88E22, 22N32), TZ=-5Hrs 30Mts]
Sri Saranji maintained
that this Virgo Asdt chart belonged to a member of a very big business family
of Calcutta. The strong Ve [family status & family
wealth] and the strong Su [comforts & luxuries and authority] speak for the
family wealth & status. Saranji’s
point was that all the failures of this individual in his life, his broken
relationship with his siblings, his lethargic temperament, his lack of
inability to solve his own problems – all of these were centered around the
multiple close afflictions to the MEP of the IIIH, and deb Ke’s close
affliction to the Asdt & Asdt lord. Through this example he was
illustrating the converse SA Sutra that
when the IIIH and the IIIH significator are afflicted
and/or weak, the desirable fruits of the IIIH, such as success, grace through
siblings, good vitality and courage will be found to be missing in life.
[The direct Sutra is what we are
familiar with most of the time: namely that, “When the IIIH is strong, its
fruits, such as courage, vitality, success, Divine Grace for team work and
leadership therein, profound interest,
good breathing system, all become available in Life.”] Another SA Sutra is that:
“whenever the third house MEP is under the close influence of the sixth lord
one is involved in conflicts and disputes”.[Prof Choudhry]
Case Study 5:
[Nov 11th, 1986, 10:11AM, Coimbatore (76E58,11N00), TZ=-5Hrs, 30 mts]
This is a Sagittarius
Asdt chart, presented by Sri Saranji. The
individual in question was known to be lazy and procrastinating. Saranji
attributes this to the IIIH lord Sa, being weakly placed in the XIIH of losses.
However, here, not only
is the IIIH lord Sa weak, even the significator of the IIIH, namely Ma, on
account of the exact-affliction from Ke, is rendered weak. There is no
self-empowerment either, in view of the weakness of the Asdt lord, Ju. Even the two planets of vitality , both
significator of the IH, namely Ma and Su-are both weak. These seem the
cumulative factors which made the individual have very little élan vital [drive, vitality].
It was pointed out that
as the Ju dasa was running in his childhood and in view of Ju aspecting the IXH
MEP, and significantly[also in view of Sa’s third aspect energizing the IIH MEP
and the tenth aspect, energizing the IXH MEP], the boy showed spiritual inclinations at a young age and was attracted
to philosophy. The placement of Sa, in the XIIH of renunciation and it’s
impact upon the IXH resulted in his taking Deeksha
and moving into a Renunciant’s life. Sri Saranji, was throwing light on another
aspect of the weak IIIH, when the same, goes to pave the way for a spiritual
life, even though, he becomes bereft of élan
vital, due to this bad placement.
Case Study 6:
[A woman
student-leader, June 26th, 1985, 5:43AM, Nagpur (79E06, 21N09), TZ=-5Hrs, 30Mts]
In his last example to
illustrate of the
‘multiple manifestations and beauties of the IIIH in the SA’, Sri Saranji had a
Gemini Asdt chart, which had the powerful blessing of the strong Su, being
conjunct with the Asdt MEP, and also the significator of the IIIH, namely Ma,
as the XIH lord, placed in the IH [though suffering from the 64% weakness of
combustion]. The placement of both the Su, as the strong lord of the IIIH and
Ma, another fiery planet, and the significator of the IIIH, may be expected to
make the lady have stupendous motivation, and a fiery temperament.
In fact, Saranji
described her as: ‘Dynamic, a student leader, an orator [IIIH signification],
traveler [IIIH signification], and who has carved out her own niche in the
professional sphere [IIIH gives success, Su also gives success].She is
ambitious[Ma rules XIH, Su gives seeking], a no-nonsense woman, fully
energetic, energetic work is real life to
her.’
Ve was of course exactly
afflicted by the Ra-Ke axis. Ju was deb and placed in the VIIIH. Me suffered
from extreme infancy weakness in the IIH and the Mo was well-placed in the IVH.
But these configurations were not
important in Sri Saranji’s illustration, as he had concentrated on studying how
the IIIH, either shapes the profession, or the personality, making them either
valiant heroes, or when it is weak and/or afflicted, failures and ‘weaklings’!
At the end of Sri
Saranji’s talk, I had time to bring to a conclusion, my PPP, which remained incomplete on the first day. After my talk
was completed, Prof
Choudhry, gave a very useful summing up of the important SA Sutras.
SA Sutras given out by the Prof:
1.
That “the IIIH is very important for
success and fulfillment in all spheres”.
2.
That
in the ‘Final Fruit of the Monumental Legacy’, mentioned by me in PART II[as a
result of the six Essential Ingredients being present in the birth chart], as
given by the generalized ‘Accumulated
Wealth Sutra’; the XH, would also have to be considered, on par
with the IIH. This
would mean that the PD and GSs of the ‘Final Fruit’ of the Monumental Legacy
will now be given by the new Sutra:
“Final Fruit of
Monumental Legacy= IIH [and/or XH] –IVH-IXH-IH-Ve”
3.
“Any controversial chart, in which
there is a pronounced influence of the VIH, when discussed in a Sabha, will also bring into
manifestation, that very inherent VIH quality of controversy.”
4.
“Mere placement of the Su in the XH
[and not necessarily near the MEP], brings in courage into the sphere of the
profession”.
5. This is not a Sutra, but a
commentary only. Going more deeply into “the 5 wounds of Christ, which Padre
Pio received as the Blessing called, the Stigmata”, when an SA astrologer
[probably Sri Pandeyji, but I am not sure, in this case] suggested that the
Saint could be a reincarnation of the Master Jesus; Prof Choudhry had pointed
to a similar situation of a so-called reincarnation of Swami Vivekananda taking
place, some years ago in New York, with a horoscope also similar to the Swami
Vivekananda’s.
6. Also a commentary. That the
affliction to the Su and the income lord in the VIIIH in Padre Pio’s chart, was
quite good for the spiritual life, though
it denied income, for life in the
Artha and Kama spheres.
By way of summing up, Professor Choudhry, to refresh
the memories of the Conf delegates, recapitulated many SA Sutras regarding the Hs
& planetary significations:
S1: “Placement of the planets in
the IIH brings recognition.”
S2: “Placement of various lords in
the XIH, shows various types of income and earnings and gains”.
S3: “Placements in the IIIH
creates motivations, and endeavours, inclusive of the profession”.
S4: “For studying the level of
Professional success, one must consider, comprehensively, many Hs: the XH, the
IIH, the VH, the XIH, and the IIIH.”
S5: “The placement of the IIIH lord
and strongly at that, matters, for the profession.”
S6: Taking an
illustrative example of a diplomat’s chart, who had secured a diplomatic assignment, on the basis of
her writing and authorship, Prof Choudhry, pointed out that, even when the IIIH
lord was debilitated on the MEP of the IIH [Leo Asdt chart], the lady succeeded
in securing a ‘Sun-like’ professional status of a diplomat, because of the
‘Sun-like nature of the IIIH lord’,[ in spite of the deb of the IIIH
lord on the IIH MEP].
S7: “One must distinguish between
the SA strength of a planet, and the influence of a planet. Prof
maintained that one FB planet can mutually influence another FB planet, in
which case, the fruits of both the benefic Hs are mutually
aided and enhanced, or when a FB
planet influenced a H MEP, through its benefic conjunction or aspect, that H which is thus influenced, prospers, because
of the influence of the conj /aspecting FB planet.”
S8: Referring
to the Gemini Asdt chart of Prof Albert Einstein, Prof Choudhry said, the
mutual yoga between Me and Sa is beneficial for both Hs, ruled by these two FB
planets, even though both lords, Me and Sa were weak only. Me was
actually weak and also deb, and exactly afflicted too by Ke. Sa was closely
afflicted by Ke and combust. [This yoga had actually contributed to ‘the
Nobility of Einstein’s Soul’ and also made him a Mystic during the Me and Sa
sub-periods.]Prof said,
such yogas enhanced the energies and
strengths of both Hs and planets, to the extent that the two FB planets
contributed, mutually.
Finally, Professor Choudhry mentioned the
professional significations of the planets in the SA system.
1.Prof Choudhry said, Me gives power for professions requiring the power of
analysis: such as in the field of computers and IT, legal professions, in those
of chartered accountants, dealing with accounts and audits, professions
requiring speculation such as trading and commerce, stock-trading, and in professions requiring analytical perfection, as in research.
2.Regarding Ve, the Prof said, it aids in professions, which are based on design and creativity;
life-saving drugs; glamour and art work; and that even doctors who have a
favorable Ve[apart from a well-placed and strong Su] will prove to be better
physicians.
3.For the Su, Prof said, the Su indicates professions centered on: managerial ability,
administration of companies and organizations, Politics and political work,
Medical work, dealing with drugs, and physician’s occupations.
4.Regarding the planet Ma, the Prof said, the suitable professions are those of project
management and erection [because these can be done only with stupendous
expenditures of energy and Ma is foremost the planet of energetic exertions and
executive action], heat-treatment of metals, professions centered on
land-development.
5. Touching on the Mo’s professional significations, the
Prof said, Mo, rules the
professions of money management and money lending, home-keeping, and public
relations, etc.
6. Taking the planet, Sa, the Professor said, Sa, rules large numbers of workers, and that a
strong Sa is usually found in the charts of industrialists. He said, if the
individual has an Aquarius Asdt chart, with a strong Sa and strong Ma[strong
IIIH], much can be accomplished, through their Saturnian work forces.
7.Coming to Ju, the Prof said, Ju rules all those professions, where advisory roles are
involved. And that it also plays an important role in the management of
financial institutions, and banks, and in teaching professions as well.
By association of ideas,
as ‘collective wealth’ figured in such financial institutions, this brought him to dwell
briefly on the VIIIH, which gives Inheritance in the case of individuals, and
the collective beliefs and ‘cultural heritage’ in the charts of nations.
The Prof was indirectly
drawing attention to the ‘Essential Ingredient # 5’, in the charts of World
leaders, which specifically pointed to such ‘wealth’.
General Comments:
Talking of the
discipline of Astrology, he mentioned that, even in the highly respected field
of medicine, what is prescribed today as a trust worthy medicine[that is
capable of providing immediate relief], is often withdrawn after a few years,
because some side effects come to be discovered; whereas Astrology alone stands
tall, unchanged, with a timeless quality. And that it is for this very reason
that the SA has come to be practiced in as many as 70 countries. Thus, he said, that Astrology is indeed, the highest discipline of
systematized knowledge-even better than the sciences, because it gives
knowledge of all the aspects of man’s life, from birth till death.
And that, even where
precession was concerned, it was very accurate, as each degree corresponded to
just 4 mts diff[In this
connection, I may also mention that, in the SA, the Prof considers, the precise
moment of cutting off of the umbilical cord, as the correct time of birth, as
only after this, does the baby, become an independent living organism of its
own, without any dependence on the mother.(Reproduced from a conversation with
the Prof in the Restaurant, during the evening meal)].
In this connection, he brought to our notice,
that even one single minute difference in the time of birth, would make a
profound shift, in the planetary influences, as in the case of Rasi-Sandhi
births. Such striking differences in the destinies, show up, in the charts of twins
as well, even when there is a small diff of only 3 mts in their times of birth,
Prof Choudhry pointed out.
He also drew our
attention to the importance of fixing the Asdt Sign correctly, for otherwise,
the astrologer cannot prescribe the Remedial Measures correctly.
Mentioning the case of one of the students interested in
astrology, who had the habit of bringing new people in distress to the
Professor, whenever, he came into contact with them; Professor Choudhry
mentioned that to meet this endless demand [!], he had devised an ascendant
wise list of astral remedies, which enabled the students to
offer the correct Remedial Measures to the persons seeking astral help. These anecdotes and incidents, made the Conf
more interesting and lighter, without diluting the serious tenor of the
proceedings, appreciably.
A Vedic
Astrologer Receives Mahakaleshwar’s
Blessings in the Ancient City of Ujjain:
I might mention here, as not out of place, a very curious
‘miracle’[from my legitimate perspective], which happened to Sri Roop Saranji,
as far back as one year, when he was stationed in Raja Vikramaditya’s famous
capital of Ujjain. There, there is a
renowned ‘Mahakaleshwar Temple’ of Lord Shiva, a very ancient one, even
mentioned in the Puranas. Here Shiva exists as a Jyotirlinga.
The astrologer Sri Roop Saranji narrated this to me, in the
lobby (in the presence of
Prof Choudhry), after the Conf was over. It was in reply to the question, as to how it came about
that he ‘discovered’ the SA of Prof
Choudhry?
Roop Saranji prayed in utter desperation to this God Shiva
in Ujjain, for on that day he had the unusual good
fortune to gain access to the garbhagriha
[sanctum sanctorum] of the Temple. The prayer was short, for a few mts only, but
very deep and sincere. He fervently asked
Mahakaleshwar to show him the way,
as to how best he may bring peace and
truth to his clients, who had invested so much of their faith in him. The
prayer was possible on that day, only because of his despondent condition. Two
incidents happened in Ujjain in the immediate wake of this prayer- which
dramatically and irrevocably introduced him to the SA of Prof Choudhry.
He was asked to astrologically advice the then Vikram
University Vice Chancellor’s son [who was then deeply enmeshed in a romantic
affair with a certain girl of ‘questionable character’ [from the VC’s point of
view], and lo! when he met this young man, to take him on, the young man told
Saranji: “Yes, I also know astrology and have been studying” and had a defiant
tone. When questioned further, as to what was the kind of astrology that he was
using, pat landed Prof Choudhry’s
introductory book on the SA on the table!
In a second incident, almost in quick succession, someone
from his home town of Vizag called, asking for a consultation and hearing that
he was to be stationed in Ujjain only, for the coming 15 to 20 days, said that
as he was moving to Delhi, he would pick up the books he wanted and come to see
him. This gentleman finally arrived, with the complete set of Prof Choudhry’s
SA writings (all the books) from Sagar Publishers and after handing over the
book bundle to him[!], promptly left the premises, saying he will come again
for the consultation. However, that was the last he heard of this gentleman,
for Sri Saranji never saw him again in life! So, when I heard this
narration[being very familiar with the miracles of God], I declared that this
was a veritable miracle Mahakaleshwar [Kalapurusha or the God of Time or the
God of Vedic Astrology]had wrought, for answering the prayer of his beloved
devotee Sri Roop Saran.
In the last PART IV
[pertaining to the afternoon Session of April 12th ,] I shall cover
four more case studies that were discussed and also cover Prof’s concluding
remarks.
