11th
& 12th April, 2009
Part III[Session II]: The
Second Day, Afternoon
In this last session,
Prof Choudhry asked if there were any additional case studies, which needed closer
scrutiny? The first one was brought up by Sri Nawal Kishore. This was an enigmatic case of
twins, one of whom was perfectly healthy, while the other suffered from Optic
Atrophy [First
Case Study].
Twin [Healthy]:
[May 22nd
1991, 12:24 PM*, New
Delhi (77E13, 28N37)]
MEP= 10Deg 02Mts, Su at 6Deg 57Mts
Twin [with Optical
Atrophy]:
[May 22nd,
1991, 12:29PM, New
Delhi (77E13, 28N37)]
MEP= 11Deg:08Mts, Su at 6Deg 58Mts
Prof Choudhry said the
optical atrophy problem can be with the younger child as the greater influence
of the Sun in the elder child’s chart protects him.
This deficiency in
vision was detected when the twins were 1.5 yrs old.
The Mo is deb in the Navamsa
div chart[thus weak] and afflicted by both malefics Ra and Ke in the sign Virgo
in the D-6 div chart, as the IIH lord of vision in the right eye. In the Rasi
chart, the Mo however rules the left eye [for males].
Prof Choudhry, pointed out that, in the case of the
healthy twin, as the very strong Su in
the XH, as the general significator of vision, had provided additional relief
to the extent of some 20%, through its impact, it thereby also alleviated the
affliction to the Mo by some 20%.
He also pointed out that Ju and Ma, which were placed in the malefic XIIH, also
had to suffer, because of the affliction from Ra to their dispositor, the Mo. When I had asked Prof Choudhry, whether, the eye-trouble would never
have occurred in the first place, if the chart had the MEP at 6degs 57mts, he
said, “Yes, this trouble, may not have manifested in such a case”.
As a scribe, writing
down the Conf Proceedings, I had to seek further clarification from Prof
Choudhry, by raising the Q through an e-mail: That when the TOB of the healthy
twin is advanced by just one minute and made 12:23 PM[instead of 12:24 PM];
then the Asdt in the D-6 chart of the healthy twin, receives the blessing from
the strong Su, from the VIIH of this D-6 chart; whereas, if the TOB of the ‘optic
atrophied’ twin is retained at 12:29 PM[or even advanced to 12:28 PM]; then the
Asdt of the D-6 chart does not get the blessing from the strong Su. Whether in
view of this data, we should consider 12:23 PM as the correct TOB for the healthy twin?
Prof Choudhry replied that this observation may be
included in the Conf Proceedings, as additional SA light on the original Q
raised by Sri Naval Kishore. We may also note in passing that with the TOB at 12:23 PM for the healthy
twin, we secure the additional impact of
the Su, on the whole chart as the significator of vision, amounting to
something like 40%.
Second Case Study:
This was brought up by Sri Aman Deep Saini. It was a “short lived problem”. A normal senior citizen,
suddenly suffering from a loss of memory, & this making him very angry and
irritable, etc. These were the symptoms.
[17-10-1933, 5:48 AM, Delhi (77E13,
28N40)]
Professor remarked that short-lived problems invariably
arise on account of Tr afflictions and that the same must be true here also. The Me-Me
sub-period had commenced in Aug 2007 and would run till Jan 2010. He also drew
attention to natal Sa’s close affliction [10th aspect] to Me, the
dasa lord. The affliction to the dispositor of Me, Ve, from the angry planet
Ma, is also expected in the SA, to indirectly impact on Me. There was a
prolonged stationary Tr affliction from the nodes to natal strong Sa, from mid
Dec 2008 to Apr 2009. Worse still, Tr stationary Ke, around 14-15 degs in
Cancer, closely afflicted both Ma & Ve in the sign Scorpio, aggravating the
whole situation.
Throwing more light on
the SA Preventive Remedial Measures as a means of protecting oneself from the onslaughts of such Tr
afflictions; the Prof
remarked that he organized the Conf, at a time when the Tr afflictions from the
nodes[in his own chart] had not in fact fully cleared. “With the help of
preventive Remedies, we can keep on going and peacefully sail through”, the
Professor said. The Conf was planned in fact eight months ago, when he
had foreknowledge of the coming stationary Tr afflictions from the nodes, but
that the Remedies had given him the confidence to sail through smoothly. In
passing he mentioned that while in the case of modern medicine, doctors are
treating symptoms rather than the disease conditions, in Astrology, we are pacifying
the causative factors through the daily propitiative charities.
Third Case Study:
This was presented by Cmdr Ashutosh Pandey.
[10 Aug
1958, 14:39 hrs, Delhi (77E13,
28N40), Scorpio Asdt]
The gentleman in
question, is a producer of video tapes & music cassettes. By Pandeyji’s
account, the gentleman had a hunch that he would succeed in his business, only
in distant lands. Once there however, the odds turned out to be against him.
Pandeyji sought Professor’s comments.
It was pointed out that the nodes afflicted Ju, one of
the professional planets, and that too in the malefic XIIH. Worst still, was
the malefic Ma’s exact affliction to the IXH MEP, the XIIH MEP, as well as the
Asdt MEP. So Professor said that multiple propitiatory Remedies were called for
in this case, to bring relief in distant lands.
It is however interesting
to observe that the mutual beneficial yoga between Sa as the IVH lord and the
Mo as the IXH lord, does in fact tally with the hunch of the businessman, while
the afflictions, to the IXH, XIIH [both distant lands], as well as the Asdt and
the IIH lord, which made life in distant lands difficult, did not trouble him
with any foreboding.
Fourth Case Study:
This was also presented by Sri Pandeyji.
The chart was that of a
famous stage actor, who in spite of securing a contract to go to the US, found to his dismay that every time, some
other person was selected instead of him and he sought to understand this
conspiracy in his destiny!
[Mar 18th
1960, 8:30 AM, Mumbai
(72E49, 18N57)]
This chart had many
strong benefic planets, but Ra & Ke caused close afflictions to the Su and
the deb Mo, placed in the malefic XIIH & VIIIH respectively. In Prof’s view, Remedial
Measures for all FMs, Ra, Ke & Me, were called for, if he is to have
success.
When Pandeyji mentioned that many people are reluctant to
perform Remedial Measures, Prof
Choudhry mentioned the case of a young beautiful lady, who was a post
graduate by qualification and who was working in a bank in Parliament street. It was mentioned that she was also from a good
family. When initially Remedial Measures were recommended for her, she was
indifferent and probably thought them unnecessary! She was actually seeking a
life partner. When after two years of her search, still no life partner turned
up on the horizon, she came right back, in all earnestness, ready to do the
Remedial Measures.
Special Note to
Conclude Part II[Session II]:
Before the Concluding Remarks by the Prof, I had sought his
permission, to add the significant point, which I had made, actually made during the Conf, towards
the end of Part II [Session II]{My PPP on ‘The
Light of the SA on World leaders,… etc’}, but which I had failed to insert in
my writing up of the Proceedings,
because I was under tremendous pressure, on account of multiple deadlines.
When I had applied all the six ‘Essential Ingredients’ to
the chart of the Professor, I found that, the chart had in fact passed the
test, just as well as the other charts of the World Leaders had. As I am placed
in the rather lucky position of actually being able to understand, that his
Astrological research work is of Monumental Proportions and would tantamount to
a Monumental Legacy[because even the Sutra for the ‘Final Fruit’ gives
excellent results for his chart]; I would like to make this concluding statement,
without in any way, causing him embarrassment. That the profound
significance of his Mission Work is
being appreciated internationally and would find still better recognition in
the times to come.
We
are living in a Science and Technology-centered World, and in such an age,
Vedic knowledge systems like Astrology, simply will not find favour, with the
establishment. However, we may hope, that in spite of this prevailing blindness
of our age to Ancient disciplines of learning, the day may not be far off, when
even Astrology may come to be recognized, for the immense healing and relief it
is bringing, to its adherents, the world over.
This has been said here,
not to create any ‘special aura’ around Prof Choudhry [for he will be the first
person to be thoroughly uncomfortable with such a thing in the first place!],
but only to be fair to his work, in the light of my PPP.
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The following question was raised by me, in an attempt to
ensure that the SA of Prof Choudhry must gain firmer ground and wider
acceptance among the world of astrologers world-wide. I addressed this Q to
Prof Choudhry, seeking an answer from him.
Q: I find many ‘Vedic Astrologers’, a few of greater renown,
but many of moderate standing also, using ‘Vedic Astrology’ as the appropriate
name for their system of astrology. As we know the SA to be so powerful and
efficacious in its predictive accuracy, analytical clarity, as well as in the
functional nature of planets; should we not consider renaming your ‘Systems
Approach’, as ‘Prof V. K. Choudhry’s
Vedic Astrology’, so as to keep the door more wide open for other Vedic
astrologers to discover this precious SA?
My Q was answered by the Professor in the concluding
session.
Prof Choudhry’s Concluding Remarks:
In his usual self-composed manner, Prof Choudhry began the
concluding session, by mentioning the benefits of the PPP by Dr. Sankara Bhgavadpada on: ‘The Light of the Systems
Approach on World Leaders, their Mass Movements and their Monumental Legacies’;
the benefits of Sri Roop Saranji’s PPP on: ‘The importance of the IIIH in the SA’; the benefits of
Cmdr Ashutosh Pandey’s PPP on ‘Marital Problems & Astral Help’. He also added that a number of
Qs, seeking clarifications and fruitful discussions on charts had taken place.
It was explained by the Professor: ‘The number of the Practitioners of the SA, does
not become large, because we are not interested in the lay people. Technical
discussions are our forte, not mere propagation.’ It was also mentioned
by him that constantly, new areas come under the purview of the SA, because it
has been a long standing tradition in the teaching of astrology, that new
knowledge is always added, only as new Qs are raised by the students and
learners of astrology. He held that this was the sure way in which true
astrological knowledge will expand. In this connection he pointed out the ‘open
house’ policy, whereby all people, whether fully knowledgeable or not can well
become SATVA members. Professor also made it known that the SA knowledge is
constantly upgraded on his website and that new developments are often posted
on the Home Page itself.
In reply to my abovementioned Q, Prof remarked that the
name: ‘The Systems
Approach’ [SA], has done excellently well, as it has spread in more than
seventy countries, even through the translations into the European foreign
languages of French, Portuguese and Serbian. He did not seem interested,
in accelerating the pace with which SA was reaching out to seekers the world
over. In his view, he said
‘Good things in life will be available only to sincere and deserving people.’
Looking back, he reminisced as to how, many sitting in the Conf as delegates,
originally came to him to consult on life’s sudden setbacks. He said Sri Gaurav
Dhameja’s father had come for a consultation originally, and here we have the
son, sitting as an astrologer with us.
Summing up, he said, “Till humanity lives, the SA will be alive. I have no
great craving. Whatever God has blessed me with, that is more than enough.”
[Here we see, from close quarters, the spiritual disposition and the nobility
of the Professor’s soul.]
He added that at the next SA Intl Conf, we could have Conf
Proceedings for three consecutive days, with the third day, devoted exclusively
to Consultations.
In this way Professor
Choudhry, by sharing the new Sutras and laying down clearly his spiritual
philosophy, which is his foundation for his astrological research in the form
of the Systems Approach, concluded this session, with the handing over of the
Intl Conf participation certificates, to all the delegates, one by one. There was also a group photograph at the end of
the certificate ceremony and with that the fourth Intl Conf of SA astrologers
came to a close on an amicable and peaceful note.
